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Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 18:50:00 - [1] Originally by: jbob2000 If what you say about the GMs actions are true, then that is total BS! I hope you have some kind of active petition about that issue, because in my opinion and based on what you've said, that shouldn't have happened. Let me clear something up RIGHT NOW. The server node crashes were randomly warping people from safespots and POSs into random areas at any given time. Since McFix were already setup at gate and station camps we were getting slaughtered NOT by anything other than server hickups landing us on enemy ships. You can see that even McFix was getting the same issue but to a much lesser extent. That is why the GM intervened. Because EVER SINGLE LOSS that came from that was petitionable for both sides. Because McFix was in defense the GMs made a cease fire which was supposedly ONLY supposed to be for undocked ships. Now anyone that from IAC that took advantage from this should be petitioned as exploiting and that person should be banned for atleast 3 days imo for not folowing GM orders. The GMs acted in neutral in this but was willing to work with those in control at the time to keep the node in check. It should also be said that someone on the McFix side petitioned us for can exploiting and came in very abruptly and told us in local to stop doing something we WERE NOT doing. Then after we mass petitioned back GM Ginger and his other GMs online at the time came back in and said in Local that IAC WAS NOT EXPLOITING. So... lets not even question the GMs in this. Had McFix not blasted every random bug warp they could to fill their killboards there would not have been any GM intervention on a cease fire. Do not blame the GMs blame McFix for not working with the GMs. Gus Preston worked over 2 hours with GM Ginger to stabilize the node while we took back our Outpost. Without node crash scare ( which resets your outpost shields back to 100% ) we could have taken back the outpost within minutes. Because of node crashes it took hours. That means our forces kept dwindling and we couldn't keep McFix at bay forever. Finally McFix took back the outpost after our 6 hour futile effort of reclaiming and shield repping the outpost under GM node supervision. This whole war might have been futile for McFix because of node crashes. But lets not forget why they crashed. IAC has more friends ( even friendly enemies ) than people gave them credit for. I am damn proud to be IAC and I believe everyone in the EVE community can atleast be witness to a monumental achievement to overcome an outpost attack by MC. Cheers to all sides. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 20:20:00 - [2] Originally by: Sivona If you want to talk about it there is a thread on the mc forums (you need to reg an account). I dont know if this thread is the place for it and i dont know if this type of discussion is really allowed in here. This whole thread spins the GMs actions to give IAC an advantage. In fact this is incorrect and my words are more than relavent since now people seem to think the GMs gave us freebees. McFix burgers must come with a side order of paranoia. I think you really need to evaluate the tone of the McFix view point on the GMs its really disgusting to me. You have a lot of tension built up that just doesn't make sense when you look at it from what they were trying to accomplish and what rules they have to follow. Especially when we felt the brunt of GM intervention more than once. You just got overwelmed by our passion to defend and yes the node couldn't hold it. Had the fight been able to reach epic proportions it would have certainly become lore of EVE which is what we all play the game for. Anyways it was huge learning experience for all. A lot of people that were previously afraid to loose ships obviously are not new to that feeling anymore. Cheers, Does this mean the contract is over? I haven't read an official statement yet. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 20:39:00 - [3] Originally by: Altai Saker I cant believe mc have problems getting their loss mails posted... It is FIX that have the hard time, not MC. That BS fleet we took out friday night was 16-17 battleships. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 20:46:00 - [4] Originally by: Firane Originally by: Kaylana Syi Originally by: Altai Saker I cant believe mc have problems getting their loss mails posted... It is FIX that have the hard time, not MC. That BS fleet we took out friday night was 16-17 battleships. As has been said many times, contact a FIX director to get it sorted out. Whining on the forums is likely not going to get you anywhere. I am not whining ****head. Just stating a fact. Have your directors contact your pilots to get it sorted. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 20:55:00 - [5] Originally by: Imode Edited by: Imode on 11/10/2006 20:49:18 Originally by: Kaylana Syi Originally by: Firane Originally by: Kaylana Syi Originally by: Altai Saker I cant believe mc have problems getting their loss mails posted... It is FIX that have the hard time, not MC. That BS fleet we took out friday night was 16-17 battleships. As has been said many times, contact a FIX director to get it sorted out. Whining on the forums is likely not going to get you anywhere. I am not whining ****head. Just stating a fact. Have your directors contact your pilots to get it sorted. Sheesh, take it easy. Killboards are only e-peen contests anyway. If you killed them, you killed them. Just because the rest of the world can't see the killmails doesn't mean they didn't happen. Don't call me a whiner then. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 00:24:00 - [6] Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 12/10/2006 00:25:36 Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 12/10/2006 00:25:01 Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 12/10/2006 00:24:28 Originally by: Haargoth Agamar It is FIX that have the hard time, not MC. That BS fleet we took out friday night was 16-17 battleships. As has been said many times, contact a FIX director to get it sorted out. Whining on the forums is likely not going to get you anywhere. I am not whining **head. Just stating a fact. Have your directors contact your pilots to get it sorted. Quote:** Sheesh, take it easy. Killboards are only e-peen contests anyway. If you killed them, you killed them. Just because the rest of the world can't see the killmails doesn't mean they didn't happen. Don't call me a whiner then. Did Imode call you a whiner? No, so stfu. Its a shame about Fix; you guys used to be proud and now you're just loud. edit : gah forum quote box wars ftl... just gonna leave it like this Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 00:33:00 - [7] Originally by: Seleene I am just laughing my ass off at some of the stories you IAC guys are telling! I knew that things had to be bad for both sides. I could only relate what it looked like from our end, of course. But, wow. People just really do not understand what it's like to be in a situation like this until they have lived it. There really is nothing quite like a node drop or three, is there? The Twillight Zone, indeed! No there isn't. But if I told you of the stupidity some of our pilots displayed during ops they shouldn't ever have happened... you'd laugh your ass off. The best description of this fight was good show of capital power by MC. Good show of T2 capable pilots by FIX. GM intervention that worked for both sides ( don't forget the GMs scooping your fighters and giving them back to you while I still have a petition out for 5 lost fighters outstanding!!! ) and the basic truth of McFix biting off more than they can chew. Maybe you should create a McFix veggie burger Still no hard feelings except and it was fun when it wasn't broken. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 00:45:00 - [8] Originally by: Rukaz Originally by: Jouni Kalmar Actually we never brought in D2, D2 have been happily camping away around 9koe and occasionally getting busted up so we could get CVA through. We have been and still are hostile to D2. Sels just saying they showed up mate, thats all. Too bad they showed up to kill us Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 09:01:00 - [9] Originally by: Latex Mistress You know, it's really sad how just 2~3 people can make such a nice post (certainly relative to another conflict currently underway) turn into a cesspool of vile and derision. It's a good read: free of smack/propaganga/etc... why some people can't just leave it that way is sad. It was a nice one sided post indeed. To bad there are two sides to the picture, and in this case 2 or 10 Funny how things work out. Anyway good luck on this weekend. You will need it; that is not smack but just an affirmation of things to come. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 09:21:00 - [10] OK OK geez I just reread the last two pages and I think it is time the public was finally given the truth on the contract. Booze Kills Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats

Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 10:23:00 - [11] Originally by: Weirda Originally by: Kaylana Syi OK OK geez I just reread the last two pages and I think it is time the public was finally given the truth on the contract. Booze Kills /tinfoil Weirda was right! Tyrrax wanted to make you guys look strong - he and Raem called in a favour... sound like a lot of fun. /me wishes Weirda and QotSA were here for IAC I't be a blast I tell you! Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 21:40:00 - [12] Originally by: Traxio Nacho Originally by: Raid Edited by: Raid on 12/10/2006 15:59:03 Originally by: Traxio Nacho Bottom line though Toman the GM allowed you to dock and undock at a station that wasn't owned by you, even offered to jump people out of system if they were stuck that is fact and something you cannot deny! WOW if that is true that is MESSED UP! We (cc/cdc) had the exact same plan when thinking about how to take the IAC outpost. Take the POS's into reinforced mode before downtime and conquer the station right after. Locking the enemy ships inside the station was the plan.. and it seems was yours as well. If a GM can just walk in and change all that then why bother even trying to take an outpost! Well the GM didnt change the station back the node did that though he allowed people to undock while everyone was ordered on a ceasefire. However like I say lets get on and not go over that again its happened nothing we can do about it now. Raid see MC forum if you want a more in deepth story from at least how we saw it. And while the GMs were at it they scooped up all your fighter drones and gave them back to MC pilots while ours floated out in space. You guys would make good spiders with the amount of spinning you do. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.13 22:49:00 - [13] Originally by: celous mm Great story and all but one thing annoyed me the most was the GM put there nose init where it didnt belong!! Why did the GM acted this way? i am sorry but no reason for this act and ruin the porpse of the game! yet i feel MC could of won if they didnt mess around You feel MC could have won against the odds they faced when we crashed the node? Wow... just... wow. Don't let MC spin a web of GMs giving IAC anything. Node crashes mean reimbursement petitions and lots of them. GMs must get involved if they can prevent unneeded petitions. We were petitioned for exploiting cans by FIX/MC and the GMs came. So bullocks to MC for trying to make it seem the GMs were not wanted in this battle by them. I don't know why people think the GMs acted unfairly. We took the brunt of the node crashes and noone on our side knew that we didn't retake the outpost when we got it back because of a node crash. The whole op was a distaster for both sides that day. Any IAC that diliberately exploited ( by that I mean gained something against the explicit word of the GM in local ) should be petitioned by MC. Its as simple as that. Noone here wants a unfair fight... oh wait... looking at the MC killboards nodecrash kills are posted in their favor. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 09:07:00 - [14] Originally by: Latex Mistress Originally by: Ifni Originally by: Adril Alatar Originally by: Del369 in a vice no doubt ? A cautious gj so far IACVA You mean IACVAXE? There are others assisting IAC in this... I think if you tallied up all the acronyms involved on both sides, the result would look like the back of a shampoo bottle tbh... mmmm shampoo bottle... sounds sexy Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 09:15:00 - [15] Originally by: Ifni Originally by: Adril Alatar Originally by: Del369 in a vice no doubt ? A cautious gj so far IACVA You mean IACVAXE? There are others assisting IAC in this... Was very surprised and pleased to see D.N.A. on our team. Much respect. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 19:02:00 - [16] There wasn't a 3:1 ratio for the majority of POS 2 and 3 coming out of reinforced mode. We had 110ish in local for most of those fights and 10 or 20 that were tending to logistics any given time with some people in the station. I know... I had 2 accounts running logistics and 1 sending fighters. MC spiders... spinning a tale of agony. The initial battle was well in our favor thanks to AXIOM, CVA, GHSC, Celes APOC and the other allies that have been awesome throughout the night. However, it was an equal/near-equal IAC led defense for a good amount of fights after our allies had to log that lead to a good deal more MC&co. losses. Foo did an excellent jeeerb and had some great backup FCing by Orochimaru when grid bugs got in Foo's way. MC&co. got straight handed last night all around. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.16 19:05:00 - [17] Originally by: Eleese Originally by: Zylla Originally by: Grimster It's about time we had something to get our teeth into, expect more. gg all. I had a blast for a few hours even if I did get popped. Maybe the guys whining about our warp in cans have grown compacent and lazy because all their contracts up til now have just rolled over and accepted defeat. As far as the cans go, we dropped what, maybe 8 or 10? If all we wanted was to lag and crash the node I could have brought all my accounts online and parked them at the POS out of harms way, or, all 200 of us could have dropped cans. I'm learning quite a bit for my 3rd week out in 0.0 Looking forward to more Proud to be NEST in IAC (P.S. I don't see the option to include info in reply window) About the can thing.. MC got petitioned for leaving npc cans (which we popped cos they spawned on us) and made to pick them up so i think you having issue with us petitioning your cans at a pos droped by you a little out of place. Alot of people drop cans at their pos to uncloak covert ops, create lag etc so petitioning them is pretty standard practise for alot of people. rubbish. I blame fix for petitions but if it was MC... then you guys are just rubbish. You know what our cans were for and if you really expect us not to drop several cans at distance to warp to your t2 fitted BSs then you are delusional. If I see one more petition from your side about cans I am going to petition MC&co. for dropping so many cans after dying to cause lag. Because last night... you were the ones dropping cans from your ships. BTW thanks for the t2 tachs and t2 1400 IIs I will be using from your ships this week. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.17 11:50:00 - [18] Originally by: Latex Mistress Originally by: Murukan what exactly are you talking about? It's rather obvious where the thread is going, and it's certainly not on topic. The thread is a war story, not a blow-by-blow intel report or a running dialog about jetcans or numerical surpremacy to be handled by forum warriors. Like Yourself? Quote: Originally by: Murukan The sides are hardly flaming eachother. Sure we're disagreeing but it's not like we're going "zomg you guys suck" or any stupid crap like that. No, just general and open accusations of lying, loss of "respect", etc... It's how it starts and it really is off topic. Two sides to every war and there has been open lying and actions to really show a lack of respect in some situations. Quote: Originally by: Murukan Just because we disagree doesn't mean the convo can't keep going. Agreed, so long as it takes place in the appropriate thread. Again: this is a war story, not a running dialog of what's happening F4R right now. You corp openly said the war wasn't over. Story threads aren't covered in the forum rules yet and the war goes on. Don't get the panties in a bundle. It wasn't a completely accurate story and was overly biased and degrading. Quote: Originally by: Murukan I would hardly say it's degraded to ascn/bob level yet Operative word: "yet" I am sure you will be there when it does. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats

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